Monday, 22 October 2012

[Everything doTERRA] Re: DoTerra a Scam?

Kris,
I hope to shed some light on at least a couple points you are wondering about.
I have included/attached two documents that will help with some of the answeres.
I came from another oil company (a totally dispondant one) and so initially doTerra had to prove itself to me. And they have continued to do that throughout the little over 3 years that I have been with them. Actually going above and beyond in customer satisfaction. I have never been unhappy with their products. They seem to be consistant continually.
Here is what one of my new IPCs demonstrated for me. (I love the way she thinks!!) During a presentation I sometimes show how 2 drops of lemon oil will dissolve a styrofoam cup quickly. It helps remove petroleum products from our bodies. Before I went to do a second presentation for them with a different group, she had decided to use some YL lemon oil and do a comparison test. They have been with YL for quite some time.  After everyone left, she said she wanted me to see something and went and got the cup she had done the same experiment on and had me look inside the cup. I could see that the side and some of the bottom looked melted or flattened, but did not have a hole in it anywhere! She told me she had used her YL lemon oil and done it a couple days earlier. She asked, do you think that means doTerra's is that much stronger than? I just returned the question to her and asked, what do you think?
I agree with doTerra very strongly that I don't put other companies down, but like yourself you want to know what's what and you are doing a comparison with YL and so that is why I am also.. Another thing I have checked out is to take a citrus oil. We'll stay with lemon oil. Take one drop of doTerra's lemon oil and put it on one side of a plain white sheet of paper. Draw a circle around it while it is wet. label the paper (on one side) with doTerra's name. Take another company's lemon oil and do the same on the same piece of paper but on the other side. Label it. Now some company's oil will show up with a ringaround it - the colors vary. some show up shiny. Some don't smell like what came out of the bottle within minutes. I am not a chemist or scientist, just an observer. But doTerra's dissipates and smells the same from start to finish as what comes out of the bottle. I can say that YL does the same. So what is the difference? The smell remains with YL for around an hour. doTerra's smell sticks around for around 3 hours. Try it for yourself and decide what that might mean.
As far as things being written up similiraly, let's look at any businesses that sell the same type of merchandise. Grocery stores for example. Many are arranged similar, have ads running similiar procuts, and offer a lot of the same products. Are they copying the others or following common sense instead of reinventing the wheel? doTerra and YL are not only both MLMs but off the same line of products. there are only so many ways things can be said and be correct. there is similar language for the business side of things when compared to each other without selling the same type of products. That is considered free market, not copying.
Testing oils: an audit is a random testing. doTerra has each batch checked independently. Blends are similar throughout the industry. People's needs are similar no matter where you source your oils.
There are all kinds of people to jump on a downward pull of anything or anyone. I hope this give you somethign to help you find confidence in a company I strongly believe in and love.
Becky Full ~~~please see below~~~
 

Boswellic Acid is found in the Frankincense resin not in the essential oil

 Holan Nakata, Honolulu, Hawaii
DoTerra IPC 32119

Holan on Wednesday, June 8th, 2011

Doterra CPTG Pure means 100% essential oil.

There are a lot of studies on Boswellic Acids which come from many species of Frankincense.
Boswellic Acid is found in the Frankincense resin not in the essential oil.
Boswellic makes up 30% of Indian Frankincense Boswellia Serrata.

Structure of α-boswellic acid

Doterra’s Alpha CRS+ contains Boswellic acid extracted from Boswellia Serrata.
I write about it and the clinical studies here.

Doterra’s Frankincense essential oil does not contain boswellic acid.
This adheres to Doterra’s CPTG standards as processing frankincense.
It also adheres to Doterra’s definition of Pure essential oil is a pure essential oil. Boswellic acid is listed often as a different constituent as an essential oil.
Boswellic Acid is found in the Frankincense resin not in the essential oil as shown.
Even in Boswellia Sacra, the boswellic acid is found in the resin. This is shown
here. The constituents of Boswellia Sacra are found here.

Are Boswellic Acids part of the essential oil?

No.

Boswellic Acids are non-volatile.
Essential oils are volatile

Constituents of essential oils are small molecules, the largest have 10 or 15 carbon atoms.
Boswellic Acids have 30 or 32 carbon atoms.

How is it that essential oils on the market contain boswellic acid?

This can be explained here:

One way to obtain a mixture of the volatile oil (essential oil) and boswellic acid is destructive distillation in which the resin is heated directly with no water at high temperatures. This provides a different stucture of compounds compared to oil that is distilled conventionally. This does not adhere to Doterra’s standard.

Another way to include boswellic acid is to extract boswellic acid from the resin after the oil is distilled by dissolving it in alcohol. You will have a white powdery substance which can be reintroduced to the frankincense oil. This does not adhere to Doterra’s practices or standard of a pure essential oil.

Other methods include agitation which breaks down the resin as the frankincense is steam distilled until it mixes back with the 100% pure essential oil.

A Dictionary of Applied Chemistry has been around for more than a century.

I learned how boswellic acid is extracted by reading A dictionary of applied chemistry, Volume 3
By Sir Thomas Edward Thorpe

A following is an excerpt from A dictionary of applied chemistry:

The chief constituents of frankincense are resin, gum, and volatile oil. The oil is obtained by distillation; alcohol dissolves the resin and water the gum. From the resin Tschirch and Halbey obtained boswellic acid C30H48O3, a white powder which shows little tendency to crystallize. The resin probably contains boswellic acid in the form of an ethreal salt.

Many Frankincense essential oil market their oil as containing Boswellic acid. If this is true, then their definition of a pure essential oil is different from ours. Click here to see how companies “essential oil” may not be an essential oil.

Learning about distillation, oils, and acids remind me of my days at the University of the Pacific, where we synthesized aspirin in the laboratory. I am excited when Doterra explains distillation, oils and when it is verifiable. I’ve been told that both Emily Wright and Dr. David Hill has stated that Boswellic Acids are not part of pure essential oils.

I am glad to be part of Doterra who runs ethically. Dr. David Hill has expressed that it would be very easy to add natual boswellic acid to the Doterra frankincense oil but this would mean that the oil is not pure and would not fit Doterra’s definition of CPTG.

 

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:55:46 PM UTC-5, Kris wrote:
Hello,

I am being told by a friend that Doterra isn't honest about their oils
and that they aren't a very good company. I have done a bit of
research and feel that those accusations are inaccurate. However, I do
have some questions about the company I am hoping some of you can shed
light on. I would like to have more than "because I said so" as a
defense for the company. :)

1. I read that two independent labs test each batch of Doterra's
essential oils. Which labs are those? Do we have actual names to
verify that?

2. I saw an interesting Youtube video that seems to identify that
Frankincense does NOT have boswelllic acid in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZXejKRKKplY

3.  I saw a disturbing accusation that is actually believable. It is
said that the video of the blood sample involving the Balance Blend is
nothing more than a digitized copy of the blood sample analysis done
by Young Living with their Valor blend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmI4HE0NIhE   - about 1 min and 54
secs in
vs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gyabv1WmM
I have to say they do look eerily similar.

4. I thought DoTERRA was the only company that did both Gas
Chromatograph and Mass Spectrometer testing. But according to Young
Living they also use BOTH of those forms of testing.
http://www.youngliving.com/en_US/company/therapeutic-grade.html

In fact this DoTERRA page seems to say a lot of the same kinds of
things as the above Young Living page.
http://www.doterra.myvoffice.com/126467/essentialGrades.html

5. Young Living says that they have audits done on their oils by
independent companies to ensure the best quality and if any oil does
not measure up it is not used. (see same Young Living link in point 4)

6. Doterra has the CPTG trademark. Well Young Living has the YLTG
(Young Living Therapeutic Grade) Trademark.

7. Many of Doterra's blends are eerily similar to blends from YL. The
founders all say they didn't copy they 'improved'. Yeah, but it
appears that YL provided that framework and not much was really
changed by way of ingredients.

It seems to appear more and more that Doterra is a duplicate of Young
Living. Both seem to claim absolute perfection and purity. So someone
please tell me how I am supposed to defend DoTERRA? Yes the leadership
of DoTERRA is awesome but isn't enough to say they are superior to
everyone else on the market when Young Living appears to be the exact
same and has been in existence for longer and many of DoTerra's
founders came from them in the first place. I've heard the story about
how Doterra came to be and the journey that founders took. It's pretty
amazing yes. But how do I explain to others that Doterra didn't just
come to be to compete with YL? I know it's about quality but so it
also appears to be with YL. If DoTERRA is truly superior I need
specifics to back this up - specifically in regard to YL. Someone
throw me a bone here. :)

Thanks,
Kris

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