Wednesday, 25 July 2012

Re: [Everything doTERRA] Re: Confused by who gets to keep the enrollements??

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Lynn <lynn19791997@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Pat,
>
> Your kindness and willingness to help everyone shows in all of your
> posts! Thank you for your time and patience and for sharing your
> business and natural health expertise with us.
>
> On Jul 25, 12:58 pm, Patricia Leavitt <doterradisco...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> I swore I was through commenting on this but have changed my mind. May I
>> please comment to each of you regarding other peoples teams? I am making
>> this comment for myself, even though I know many who adhere to it. I do not
>> draw lines or make barriers with who is on who's team. Anyone is welcome at
>> my meetings, and if I get a call or someone new comes to my meetings I ask
>> them who they heard about doTerra from. I then explain to them that they
>> should go back to the person who introduced them to doTerra and they could
>> enroll under them.
>> This works in a perfect world, but not for everyone.
>> In order to be a product driven company, we must each be a product of our
>> product and we should also be happy to help others regardless of who they
>> are under.
>>
>> As you know I am on this forum everyday and most of you are not on my team.
>> But I love what I learn and I grow from each of your comments and I don't
>> care that you are not on my team.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Valerie Hampton <
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> vale...@donhamptonrealtor.com> wrote:
>>> "Cbrooks" I have just been reading these emails about your situation. I
>>> am so very sorry you're having these problems. There are many things being
>>> said here, lots of good advice, how to hang in there, etc. Pls keep us
>>> posted. We do care AND we can all learn from this. Where do you live? I
>>> live in Murray UT & have invited others who are nowhere on our team to come
>>> & bring others to our classes. You are always welcome. I KNOW there are
>>> LOTS of others on this forum that would extend the same invitation. We do
>>> care about your outcome & want to help. ****
>>
>>> ** **
>>
>>> *From:* everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Patricia Leavitt
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 6:37 AM
>>> *To:* everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Everything doTERRA] Confused by who gets to keep the
>>> enrollements??****
>>
>>> ** **
>>
>>> I would put together a complete letter with facts and names. Everything
>>> that you have written only more complete. Then I would email to:
>>> ddo...@doterra.com (legal counsel), ewri...@doterra.com ( leadership Vice
>>> President and owner), dstirl...@doterra.com (CEO and owner).
>>> Believe it when I tell you that doTerra will not tolerate bad behavior and
>>> anyone that does not perform with integrity and follow the guidelines. For
>>> all of our sake, you need to follow through and report this and then
>>> unfortunately you need to stay away from taking new people to her meetings
>>> and start holding your own. Bloom where you are planted, just don't expect
>>> help from your upline.
>>> You can however expect help from any of us on this forum. We will help you
>>> personally and collectively and you owe it to over 200 people that you have
>>> brought in.
>>
>>> Pat****
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:02 AM, cbrooks <cbrooks...@yahoo.com> wrote:***
>>> *
>>
>>> Thank you all so much for your input and advice. I wanted to see what you
>>> all had to say because I know the answer to my question, however I am not
>>> getting anywhere with my upline, my upline diamond or doterra. I understand
>>> the business forwards and backwards, I am almost Gold. I know and
>>> understand that my upline lacks integrity however my hands are tied!!! I
>>> just dont know what to do anymore. I have a downline of nearly 200 and I
>>> just want to be moved to a different organization so bad, but I know that
>>> will never happen. I am debating walking away from doterra because I cry
>>> more than I enjoy it these days. Its one thing to screw me but to hurt my
>>> builders and their efforts is just ruthless. The sad thing is I know
>>> doterra as a company is honest but not everyone is. The problem here is who
>>> my upline is!!!! Some people are untouchable. I understand if we bring
>>> someone to doterra we are the enroller, doesnt matter if you are doing the
>>> business or not but my upline will take enrollments if she is teaching a
>>> class that my leads or my builders leads go to.. And placements rarley
>>> never makes exceptions!!! My upline first contacted me when they started
>>> diamond club and announced that all our new enrollements can get a free oil
>>> if we give her their info, so my team did. WELL, she took the enrollements,
>>> plus enrolled them thru DC. My team soon learned that DC participants have
>>> to personally present at all classes... She wasnt even at them. We all
>>> talked to doterra and guess what, we still dont have enrollements for out
>>> people and she is still getting all those points for people she never
>>> taught. ****
>>
>>> There is much more but I dont feel like airing so much negative, when in
>>> fact doterra is really a blessing and great company... I just dont know
>>> what to do anymore:(****
>>
>>> ...****
>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:08:43 PM UTC-7, Reiki Riki wrote: ****
>>
>>> Oh! That's what we wanted to do, too, move him to another part of my team
>>> so makes sense doTERRA told me six months.
>>
>>> Riki L. Evans, B.Msc.
>>> Radiant Living, LLC
>>> www.radiantlivingonline.com
>>
>>> Sent from my HTC smartphone****
>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Ginny Eiseman" <gi...@kpunet.net>
>>> To: <everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: [Everything doTERRA] Confused by who gets to keep the
>>> enrollements??
>>> Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 12:37 pm****
>>
>>> ** **
>>
>>> Someone else like Pat might know more but I thought after 6 months you
>>> could move elsewhere in your tree but it was 12 months if you wanted to
>>> completely move. Regardless, you cannot take anyone under you with you. I
>>> think it is possible to transfer people you enrolled on your first level to
>>> someone else but if you have levels 2-7 you have to get permission 7 levels
>>> up.
>>> Good question, I'd like the answer too. I feel blessed that no one has
>>> ever asked to move and I pray that if they ever do I'll be strong enough to
>>> just sign them over.
>>> gin
>>> On 7/24/2012 9:23 AM, Riki Evans wrote:****
>>
>>> Thanks, Gin, I learned a few things!
>>
>>> I recently talked to doTERRA about an inactive consultant and they told me
>>> after six months they could move elsewhere.
>>
>>> *Riki L. Evans, B.Msc.*
>>> Radiant Living, LLC
>>> *www.radiantlivingonline.com*
>>
>>> ****
>>> ------------------------------
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:11:12 -0800
>>> From: gi...@kpunet.net
>>> To: everythingdoterra@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Everything doTERRA] Confused by who gets to keep the
>>> enrollements??****
>>
>>> There are a lot of different ways to look at this but technically*anyone
>>> * who is an IPC with doTerra can enroll someone. So your answer is yes if
>>> you bring them to the table; introduce them to doTerra; are working with
>>> them they should be your enrollment.
>>> That said, if you read your policy manual (www.doterratools.com) if
>>> you enroll someone you have a responsibility toward those you enroll, to
>>> help them learn to use the oils and doTerra products and answer questions.
>>> That is where sometimes it gets hard. So I'll tell you how I do it with my
>>> team...
>>> Shortly after they sign up I have what I call 'the talk' with my new
>>> IPCs. I explain that there is a way to pay for your oils or to actually
>>> create your own business that makes money. If they are interested I explain
>>> the financial commitment to them (i.e. $100 PV orders to be paid
>>> commission). If they have a party, event, class, do a one on one or have a
>>> friend they bring to me for a one on one AND they are willing to make the
>>> $100 PV, LRO commitment they get the enrollment every single time. Even if
>>> it means I do the presentation and fill out the paperwork, they get the
>>> enrollment. However, some aren't able to make the financial commitment or
>>> simply don't want to for a variety of reasons. Then, with their consent, I
>>> take the enrollment(s). In return I give them 10% of the orders PV in their
>>> choice of doTerra product or a check. I have someone that I keep a running
>>> tab because she uses it to buy more expensive product.
>>> Consent is an important part of this because they need to agree and
>>> feel comfortable with the decision. They could of course sign people up but
>>> if they don't have the LRO, no one gets paid and to me that seems wasteful.
>>> If I were you I'd do a couple of things... I would call customer
>>> service and ask who the diamond is above you and for their contact
>>> information (I am assuming they'd give it, if they won't give contact
>>> information just ask us I'm sure someone will have it). Then I'd contact
>>> them and talk about your struggles.
>>> I would have a get together with those that are frustrated and talk
>>> about this. What I would simply do is fill out the enrollment paperwork
>>> myself and enter it myself so there is no question who gets the enrollment.
>>> I also do a little routine when I'm working with a new person where I tell
>>> them something along the line of, I understand you need some time to thing
>>> about whether you'd like to enroll or not I just want you to know that
>>> doTerra is a commission based business and the person you enroll with will
>>> earn a commission and be your doTerra support person. If you would like it
>>> to be me, please come back to me when you are ready. (This doesn't mean I
>>> don't follow up, it is just a way that they understand it is their choice).
>>> I'd also have a heart to heart with the upline and make it clear what your
>>> expectations are. If that doesn't work, I'd simply 'shun' her and not
>>> invite her to my events, parties, etc.
>>> Try and remember, just like anything else sometimes people aren't in a
>>> good place and can justify their behavior. You can have a lot of fun with
>>> doTerra without them or be creative and find ways to circumvent her. If it
>>> is truly awful, worse case scenerio you could go inactive for 12 months and
>>> move under someone else.
>>> gin
>>
>> ...
>>
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